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Gabs88 · Feb 16, 2012, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Simply put, let us change their professions. Many people have bought the mercenary hero packs to bring our own characters with us in to combat, but whatever characters doesn't fit in to the meta can't be used effectively. There's no point bringing your assassin in nice Vabbian if there is no good build for it.

This means Mercenary heroes end up beeing simple level 20 PVP characters, retired characters or other stuff that doesn't end up getting used. And since you already have the possibility to switch Razah to any profession and have it retain the same look, and you can allready create Mercenery heroes to match and profession you wish to bring along with you. I don't see any downside to letting us bring a Warrior looking Ritualist or Ritualist looking Dervish.

It's usually for you and your friends eyes only anyhow. And it's only in PVE so it doesnt serve any purpose of fooling enemies.

Maya Cerestiez · Feb 16, 2012, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Then I want to be able to change my voltaic spears into daggers so I can swing them on my sin.

I would hate a ritualist in a warrior armor and in warrior physics. They made em appear different for a reason. Razah is a weirdo.

/notsigned

Spiritz · Feb 16, 2012, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Your telling me that if a chr isnt used they become a mule - you do realise you can delete a merc and make a new one , not exactly hard.
infact its - delete merc then make a new merc chr and get them setup and shazam you have a new one.Ive seen and done myself as well many players use the costumes on mercs so i doubt armor makes any dfferece.
Btw does anyone actually use assassin heros or mercs ?

LanaDarkess · Feb 16, 2012, 09:44 AM // 09:44

With just reading the title, my response is what in the bleeding hell??

If you don't have the right profession mercenary that you want, then buy another char slot and make one OR delete one you don't use and then make one! Better yet, why not use actual heroes? That's what they're there for!

If you're more worried about looks then functionality, good luck to you </sarcasm>

/definitely not signed

Gabs88 · Feb 16, 2012, 10:04 AM // 10:04

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Btw does anyone actually use assassin heros or mercs ?

Thats my frigging point. Nobody does, there's no good builds for them. So what harm is it for you to let someone bring a Ritualist looking like an Assassin as his PVE hero? In stead of having him make a level 20 PVP character because his assassin doesn't work as a hero?

The entire point of mercenary heroes is that you can bring your own characters with you in to the game, but when most professions don't work well as heroes you're left with using either the regular heroes or making PVP characters.

You guys really that jealous of people spending money and keeping this game alive?

Lordkrall · Feb 16, 2012, 10:58 AM // 10:58

I have bought the full merc pack, and I am still against this.
It just doesnt make ANY sence.
The reason Razah can change profession is because of the fact that he is not human (or any living being as far as we know)

And keep in mind that the AI for Melee Heroes will get updated soon, so they might actually be useful

Venganza · Feb 16, 2012, 10:59 AM // 10:59

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

The entire point of mercenary heroes is that you can bring your own characters with you in to the game

You can, just CREATE WTF YOU WANT... oh and stop all the QQ

* Oh yes most of us have mercs incidentally, hardly something to be jealous about, they are the same as any damn hero.

Mintha Syl · Feb 16, 2012, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Yeah I'm very jealous you got mercenaries, they're sure better than mines (??? jealousy is such a desperate escuse...).
Well it makes no sense in the same way as for me it made no sense the proposal of changing primary.
And really what's your point? I don't understand it. You're saying you want it cause you have a sin and sin heroes are useless...so, your sin is your only char? You don't have other 7/8 chars to mercenarize? Or you want that one as a mercenary cause of his shining pro vabbi?
If it's cause your sin is your main and you want your main for it...I myself didn't make my main into a mercenary, cause generally I don't bring ranger heroes, but it's not like I'm ok with that. Some of my most played chars got left out of it while some others had to be taken to 20 still, for the purpose...but they're all my chars, and isn't the point of mercenaries being that? And realistically, would you change your profession just to be recruited in a group? I bet your chars wouldn't :P

Guillotine Princess · Feb 16, 2012, 02:24 PM // 14:24

If I could change the profession of my mercenary then I could have 8 of xxxx profession or whatever grouping I wanted. Sounds suspicious to me and a bit like whining.

Mintha Syl · Feb 16, 2012, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Guillotine Princess

If I could change the profession of my mercenary then I could have 8 of xxxx profession or whatever grouping I wanted. Sounds suspicious to me and a bit like whining.

To be honest you can do that already my making pvp chars into mercenaries and deleting them after...

Trixxy · Feb 16, 2012, 03:05 PM // 15:05

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Btw does anyone actually use assassin heros or mercs?

Err.. I do, because apart from WoC HM and a few other elite areas the rest of GW is pretty darn easy so I may aswell. Makes things a little more fun.

Well merc heros already allow you to bore yourself to death with x7 whatever heros for some silly QQway set up, and if you dont play any of those "in demand" professions yourself you could always rack up a few quick merc heros via pvp characters. What does intrest me about the suggestion though is playing around with the different models and animations, so a monk merc that looks like an ele or a rit that looks like a sin etc. That would maybe give me a few minutes of entertainment. (I love dervish casting animations hehe)

But its not essential. I wouldn't mind something like that, but I don't see why we need it.

/notsigned

Gill Halendt · Feb 16, 2012, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

The entire point of mercenary heroes is that you can bring your own characters with you in to the game

And, guess what, each of your own characters can't change its primary, so why should heroes?

HigherMinion · Feb 16, 2012, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

Thats my frigging point. Nobody does, there's no good builds for them

You've never heard of the Locust Fury Assassin Hero build? Best sin build ever. I run 3x of them.

Gabs88 · Feb 16, 2012, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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Originally Posted by Guillotine Princess

If I could change the profession of my mercenary then I could have 8 of xxxx profession or whatever grouping I wanted. Sounds suspicious to me and a bit like whining.

You know you can already do that? You make a pvp char, make it merc, delete it after 60 seconds.

I'm just asking why we should be left doing that, or dedicating chars we don't like. In stead of beeing able to dedicate characters you put some effort and pride in to creating and turn them in to something useable.

It's only PVE heroes for christ sake, it's not like it hurts anyone. And you can already create say a Warrior looking character in huge armor (costume) and make it whatever the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you want. Nobody's complaining about that. If this makes the game a little better for me and others that have level 20 characters of other classes apart from the holy mes / rit / nec trinity then whats the big deal?

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Originally Posted by HigherMinion

You've never heard of the Locust Fury Assassin Hero build? Best sin build ever. I run 3x of them.

I hear of good builds very often, usually they suck. But whoever uses them keeps saying theyre good or allright out of ignorance.

cormac ap dunn · Feb 16, 2012, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

You know you can already do that? You make a pvp char, make it merc, delete it after 60 seconds.

I'm just asking why we should be left doing that, or dedicating chars we don't like. In stead of beeing able to dedicate characters you put some effort and pride in to creating and turn them in to something useable.

It's only PVE heroes for christ sake, it's not like it hurts anyone. And you can already create say a Warrior looking character in huge armor (costume) and make it whatever the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you want. Nobody's complaining about that. If this makes the game a little better for me and others that have level 20 characters of other classes apart from the holy mes / rit / nec trinity then whats the big deal?

The sad little excuse of "its not like it hurts anyone" has run its course. probably the single least creative answer given in the forums. Your idea has been shot down, accept it and move along...

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Originally Posted by Gabs88

I hear of good builds very often, usually they suck. But whoever uses them keeps saying theyre good or allright out of ignorance.

seems that your lack of creativity is your biggest problem, assuming the Meta is the only effective way shows your own ignorance, just sayin

By the way, the new ele double cast skills say hi! Double Dragon cast on a sin hero is not only fun, its somewhat effective at delivering the skill and some massive DPS.

**cosyfiep** · Feb 16, 2012, 05:38 PM // 17:38

/not signed
mercs are pretty easy to make and remake. If you need to change their profession, make (remake) one of that profession.

too simple I guess

Spiritz · Feb 16, 2012, 05:59 PM // 17:59

I may be wrong but razah was originally intended to be multi class from the start and somehow got left as rit . May have been something said by the devs on his update.
Btw gabbs - how can we be jealeous when many of us already have all 8 merc slots - which is probably apparent from the comments - we already paid our dues and keeping this game alive.

Also do you complain about the normal heros looks ? Cant say ive seen you complaining koss looks an idiot and dunkoro`s baldness but yet your mercs ( who YOU add and have control over original look ) you dislike.Heck some of us have all our mercs identical regardless of profession which btw is done by paying anet for costumes.Infact reflecting over that many of us have paid for full mercs plus costumes to look identical - so we def cant be jealeous of you when we pay more.

Id vote for mods to close this thread - i can see all the hungry trolls leaving droks and comming here for this troll bait thread.

Zenzai · Feb 16, 2012, 06:50 PM // 18:50

No, you are right. Razah was intended to be interchangable, but they didn't quite get the coding right until now. Until Xandra and that other one introduced recently in WOC, there weren't any Rit heros. It was a means of balance.

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

I may be wrong but razah was originally intended to be multi class from the start and somehow got left as rit . May have been something said by the devs on his update.

Spiritz · Feb 16, 2012, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by Zenzai

No, you are right. Razah was intended to be interchangable, but they didn't quite get the coding right until now. Until Xandra and that other one introduced recently in WOC, there weren't any Rit heros. It was a means of balance.

Poor Razah - spent all this time in a rits body till he had the operation :P

anet does seem to like having heros who have no clue what profession they are - first razah then kieran ... who will be next ? Will MoX decide hes a crap derv an change to monk ?

Gabs88 · Feb 16, 2012, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn

seems that your lack of creativity is your biggest problem, assuming the Meta is the only effective way shows your own ignorance, just sayin

By the way, the new ele double cast skills say hi! Double Dragon cast on a sin hero is not only fun, its somewhat effective at delivering the skill and some massive DPS.

I'm not assuming anything, I've tested every hero build in game worth taking a notice off and I know what works and doesnt. But if you wanna test your crappy DD Sin up against my heroes feel free to PM me and we'll set it up.